Were these settings ever restored after being removed?

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Were these settings ever restored after being removed?

Postby MMM » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:42 pm

I am still running an old version of Vienna because at some point in time one of the following was dropped and therefore I was unable to use Vienna in the way I had become accustomed until I restored the previous version.

The settings were:
View - Layout - Unified
View - Style - Broadsheet Clipping

What this accomplished was it saved me tons of useless clicking. It let me read all the articles in a group (a collection of RSS feeds) in one continuous scroll. In other words I see only two panes in Vienna, the one on the left that shows my groups (and feeds if I click the arrows to expand the group) and then on the right I see the full text of the articles in the selected group or feed, and I can scroll through all the articles using the mouse wheel. I do not see, nor do I want to see, a third pane showing the subject lines for each individual article. I absolutely loathe newsreaders that make you click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, and so on to read each of the individual articles (if you were annoyed reading that, you have some small comprehension of the annoyance I felt when having to do it!)

I can't remember now which setting was removed, I think it was the Broadsheet Clipping style but I cannot be certain. Anyway I just wondered if those settings were ever brought back? I'd try upgrading again if they were. If anyone who is running a current version of Vienna could advise me on this I'd be most appreciative.

Alternately, if there is a new way to accomplish this, please let me know. Remember, the goal is to never see a list of topics - I do not want that! Instead I just want to be able to continuously scroll through all the articles in a feed or group of feeds, as selected in the left-hand pane.

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Re: Were these settings ever restored after being removed?

Postby gogobera » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:28 pm

View > Layout > Unified certainly exists. I don't see View > Style > Broadsheet Clipping; however, if someone who knows Vienna's internals better than I do could point you to the right spot, I believe that's just a CSS style sheet. You could copy it, upgrade to the latest version, and then add that stylesheet to your list of options. (I think.) (BTW, I'm running v3.4.2.)

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Re: Were these settings ever restored after being removed?

Postby sandstrom » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:34 am

You can find that Vienna style by doing the following:

1. go to your application folder, find Vienna
2. right-click on Vienna.app > Show package contents
3. navigate to Contents > SharedSupport > Styles.

You should find that Broadsheet Clipping theme there. Copy the file to the desktop or other safe place.
Upgrade Vienna to the latest.
Go to the folder where you stored that theme file, double-click it, it will be installed, and it should be listed under View > Styles.

I don’t know why it was removed.

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Re: Were these settings ever restored after being removed?

Postby MMM » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:40 am

Thank you very much for the help. I saved the style, upgraded, re-installed the style and it all seems to be working pretty much as I had hoped except for two things, although I think one is just a temporary artifact of upgrading.

First, when I started the upgraded Vienna up for the first time, it brought in several of old articles, in some cases really old, like from back in 2004! I had to exit and restart it three times before it stopped bringing in old articles. I suspect that is just some kind of artifact of upgrading, or maybe because in Preferences I checked the option to Mark updated articles as new, but I'm not sure. I would kind of like to see the article again if it's been edited since I first saw it, but not going all the way back to 2004! :-)

But what bothers me more is that when I go into a group, it does not automatically mark all the articles in that group as read, like it did before. In the previous version, I could click on a group and it would show me all the articles in that group, but it also marked all those articles as read. Now, I have to actually right click on the group name or on the gear icon at the top and then "Mark all articles as read". The disadvantage to that is if I forget to mark the articles as read I'll see them again next time I go into that group. I wish there were an option to have it mark all the articles as read when you enter the group, and then use Edit > Undo mark all read if I decide I don't want them all marked as read before I leave the group, since that is how Vienna behaved in previous editions.

If anyone know of a way to make Vienna mark all articles as read when you first enter the group I would love to know how. Thanks again for the help!

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Re: Were these settings ever restored after being removed?

Postby MMM » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:52 am

Forgot to say, I also have no idea why they stopped including Broadsheet Clipping style but in case anyone wants to try it, there are two files in a folder named "Broadsheet Clipping.viennastyle" with contents as shown below:

stylesheet.css:

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/*  Style: Broadsheet Clipping
   Author: Arthur Veugelers
   Date: november 2005
   Remark: Especially useful on wide displays...
*/

body         {
            font: 14px/18px Georgia,Times,serif;
            padding: 10px 10% 10px 10%;
            }
            
img            {
            float:left;
            margin: 10px;
            }            /* text flows around images when possible */

a            {
            color:black;
            text-decoration:none;
            border-bottom:1px dashed #666666;
            }
            
.pageHeader      {
            }            /* this space intentionally left blank */

.origSite      {

            font: bold 12px Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;
            text-decoration:none;
            text-align:left;
            width:45%;
            float:left;
            }
                              
.origSite a      {
            border:none;
            }

.dateTime      {
            font: bold 12px Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;
            text-align:right   ;
            width:45%;
            float:right;
            }
            
.articleContainer      {
            }            /* this space intentionally left blank */

.articleHeadAndAuthor   {
            width:40%;
            float:left;
            }
            
.articleHeader   {
            font-size: 24px;
            line-height:28px;
            font-weight:bold;
            text-decoration:none;
            }
            
.articleHeader a   {
            border:none;
            }

            
.articleAuthor   {
            background-color:black;
            color:white;
            font: bold 12px Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;
            padding: 3px;
            margin-top:6px;
            }
            
.articleEnclosure   {
            background-color:black;
            color:white;
            font: bold 12px Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;
            padding: 3px;
            margin-top:6px;
            }

.articleBody   {
            width:55%;
            text-align:justify;
            float:right;
            }
            
.doubleLiner   {
            clear:both;
            border-top:1px solid black;
            border-bottom:2px solid black;
            padding:1px;
            margin:6px 0px 6px 0px;
            }
            
.clearBoth      {
            clear:both;
            }

.artHeadRepeat   {
            font-size: 12px;
            font-style:italic;
            text-align:right;
            }


template.html:

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<!--
   Style: Broadsheet Clipping
   Author: Arthur Veugelers
   Date: november 2005
   Remark: Especially useful on wide displays...
-->

<div class='pageHeader'>
   <div class='origSite'><a href='$FeedLink$'>$FeedTitle$</a></div>
   <div class='dateTime'>$ArticleDate$</div>
      <div class='clearBoth'></div>
</div>

<div class='doubleLiner'></div>

<div class='articleContainer'>
   <div class='articleHeadAndAuthor'>
      <div class='articleHeader'><a href='$ArticleLink$'>$ArticleTitle$</a></div>
      <div class='articleAuthor'>$ArticleAuthor$</div>
      <!-- cond:noblank--><div class="articleEnclosure"><a href="$ArticleEnclosureLink$">$ArticleEnclosureFilename$</a></div><!-- end-->

   </div>
   <div class='articleBody'>$ArticleBody$</div>
<div class='clearBoth'></div>
</div>

<div class='doubleLiner'></div>
<div class='artHeadRepeat'>$ArticleTitle$</div>


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